Such poor taste, Rush. Even for you.
Fuck you, Rush Limbaugh. Fuck you forever, you fucking shitfaced pile of shit fucking fuck.
Stay away from Fiverr. Promoting this sort of thing is NOT okay.
It’s ruining an industry.
What bullshit. Yeah, don’t worry people, you’re getting so ripped off, paying an already moderate amount for something your company is young to use and advertise either every minute of everyday for the rest of it’s existence.
Jog like artists need to eat, or pay bills, or have a roof over their heads or anything. Not like they’re PEOPLE trying to make an honest living or anything.
Every time I see that picture on my dash I expect it to be a prank and that I’m going to scroll down and see a bunch of examples of their $5 logos that amount to crudely drawn dicks.
Oh boy, logo mills. I just want to pull up something from The Graphic Artists Guild Handbook: Pricing and Ethical Guidelines about these kinds of companies. It’s long but I think it’s worth reading the full thing:
Graphic designers are facing similar assaults on their profession by companies that devalue professional design services by competing unfairly on price with shoddy design, sub-standard services, unfair labor practices, and with no regard to copyright. So-called “logo mills” are online operations that hire “designers” at ridiculously low rates to pump out off-the-shelf logos that are marketed to consumers at cut-rate prices. Most of these pre-made logos are simply pieced together clip art with mundane type treatment. The same logos are sold over and over again. Buyers can pay higher prices to get a “unique” logo, which means the company promises not to resell the design and the buyer simply owns the copyright as part of the package. “Customization” may consist of little more than providing the same logo in a different color scheme or with adjustments to the font.
A second type of logo mill offers “original” logos. The price of their services is based on the number of concepts, rounds of revisions, and designers working on the project (the greater the number, the higher the price), yet their prices are still below the prevailing market rates for professional design services. Their success, despite such low prices, is due to their abusive labor practices, which treat designers as just another expendable commodity instead of highly-trained professionals. Logo mills are the digital sweatshops of the design world. In one such company, designers work on per project basis (earning $25-40 per project) in extremely competitive conditions with no assurance of continued work and no copyright fees. Designers sign up for a project on a first-come, first-served basis. Since multiple designers work on a project, they “compete” to have their design accepted by the client. Successful designers are awarded points as well as a monetary bonus. Designers are required to critique each other’s work with points being deducted from those whose work is panned. A loss of points mean that the designer’s fee will be lowered on future projects.
Logo mills have an insidious impact on the perception among business owners regarding copyrights. By simply ignoring the existence of copyrights in the pricing structure, logo mills are completely devaluing copyrights. The result is a business community that increasingly is unaware of the existence or value of copyright and unwilling to pay what to them seems to be an unfair or unnecessary fee tacked on a job.
Also, even $100 for a logo (does that even include copyrights or…?) is incredible low. If you’re curious how much a logo should go for:
- Very small businesses (ie law firms, retail, etc.): $1,200-3,000 for a simple logo with all rights included
- Minor corporation: $1,200-12,000
- Major corporation: $4,000-25,000+
Obviously the price will also depend on the designer’s experience, copyright transfer, how fast the client needs the logo, revisions, tech specs for the logo, etc etc but you get the idea.
If you’re an artist or designer, don’t go anywhere near companies that will treat you as a commodity. And if you’re a client, do some research on how much these types of things actually cost and what is involved in the cost. If you go to one of these companies for design services, you helping perpetuate these gross practices and further undervaluing art/design and copyright. It’s why the Graphic Artists Guild and their handbook exists, as a resource for both artists and clients.
I would like to input that big big big companies are even willing to spend millions on a logo.
BECAUSE LOGOS ARE YOUR CORPORATE IDENTITY. YOUR COMPANY’S IDENTITY. it’s like giving a face to your baby.
I usually don’t reblog, but this is important. You thought Deviantart point commissions were a bad joke, this is a whole new level of wtf.
The reason people say ‘You can’t live off art’ is because of people who think this is okay.
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Anyone who thinks you can just walk into a convenience store and get the affordable birth control you need clearly has no understanding about the reality of women’s lives — and no business making decisions about them.
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More than 90% of Americans believe that the US government is unduly influenced by money, and the Mayday.US super PAC is raising $5M to fund the election campaigns of politicians who’ll pledge to dismantle super PACs and enact other campaign finance reforms. They raised more than $1M in 30 days last month, and this month, the goal is $5M. It’s the brainchild of Lawrence Lessig, who’s going to run prototype the project by running five electoral campaigns in 2014, and use the lessons of those projects to win enough anti-corruption seats in 2016 to effect real change.
Again, I’m not able to contribute to Mayday.US, because I’m a Canadian and Briton. But I ask my American friends to put in $10, and promise that I’ll put CAD1000 into any comparable Canadian effort and/or £1000 into a comparable UK effort. We all win when countries embrace evidence-based policy guided by doing what’s best for its citizens, rather than lining the pockets of corrupting multinationals.
The next time a reporter asks an actress ‘what she did to fit into her costume’ i want her to look at him like he’s a bit dim and say slowly, "Well…it’s my costume. It was made in my size. I was cast as that character, so they gave me a costume that would fit.” while looking a little embarrassed for him. And then go on to answer the deep character interpretation questions he obviously meant to ask. Obviously.
This pissed me off so much when Watchmen came out and the cast got interviewed - all the male stars got questions about the characters and the comic, and all poor Malin Ackerman got were variations on “Hey, that was one tight outfit, huh? Hurr hurr hurr.”
And this comic summarizes everything I was saying with the analogy people who see someone getting beat down in the street and the first and only reaction they’ve got is to run up on the victim and demand acknowledgment, they, too, are not beating the person, instead of stopping the assault.
Because that’s basically what happens every time some kyriarchy, micro/macro aggression shit goes down and someone points out that it’s wrong or fucked up.
I think now of every war memorial I ever yawned through on a class trip, how someone else’s past horror was my vacant diversion and maybe I learned something but I didn’t feel anything. Everyone should have a museum dedicated to the worst day of their life and be forced to attend it with a bunch of tourists from Denmark. Annotated divorce papers blown up and mounted, interactive exhibits detailing how your mom’s last round of chemo didn’t take, souvenir T-shirts emblazoned with your best friend’s last words before the car crash. And you should have to see for yourself how little your pain matters to a family of five who need to get some food before the kids melt down. Or maybe worse, watch it be co-opted by people who want, for whatever reason, to feel that connection so acutely.
This tchotchke store — this building, this experience — is nothing more than the logical endpoint for our most reliably commodifiable national tragedy. If you want to bring a coffee table book full of photos of cadaver dogs sniffing through smoking rubble back home to wherever you’re from, hey, that’s great. This is America, you can buy what you want; they hate our freedom to buy what we want.
“Despite the seemingly strong empirical support in previous studies for theories of majoritarian democracy, our analyses suggest that majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts. Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance, such as regular elections, freedom of speech and association, and a widespread (if still contested) franchise. But, …” and then they go on to say, it’s not true, and that, “America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened” by the findings in this, the first-ever comprehensive scientific study of the subject, which shows that there is instead “the nearly total failure of ‘median voter’ and other Majoritarian Electoral Democracy theories [of America]. When the preferences of economic elites and the stands of organized interest groups are controlled for, the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”
To put it short: The United States is no democracy, but actually an oligarchy.
If we had a truly independent and adversarial press in my country, this would be a big news story, but they still haven’t found that plane, so … whaddayagonnado right?